Jake sits down with renowned Israeli historian Ilan Pappé for a raw and unfiltered conversation about Israel’s actions following October 7th.

Pappé critiques Israel’s Gaza campaign, claiming it follows a long-term ideological plan rather than self-defense.

• The discussion dives into topics like ethnic cleansing, Zionism, and whether Israel’s existence justifies the oppression of Palestinians. Jake pushes back, but ends up visibly shaken by Pappé’s bold, unapologetic analysis.

Source: Macintosh Team – Youtube